Quite a bit of truth to that statement. It also speaks volumes to the objectivity of the media. A quick study of these web sites, gives further evidence.
olredtrk: I noticed on the Media Matters page that Joe Klein is accusing Rush Limbaugh of delivering “misinformation” and “lies.” Isn’t Klein the guy that wrote Primary Colors under a pseudonym and then, when it was found out, repeatedly and publicly lied about being the author? If so, why the heck is this guy writing for Newsweek — or any media outlet — instead of just shoveling rock out of roadbeds in Mississippi? And what does it say about the credibility of an outlet that would hire a confessed public liar to deliver the “news?”
And what does it say about a website — Media Matters — that would feature his writing?
I find myself in the odd position of defending Obama here. This statement was made at the White House Correspondents Dinner, which has a long tradition of being a gathering where the speakers, including the President himself, make amusing, exaggerated speeches. It’s a rare occasion where the press/Presidential relationship is collegial and informal, and even President Bush got in on the fun by making jokes about current events. To go after Obama’s statement at this dinner would be like when the Code Pink/ANSWER/Move-onners lambasted Bush for joking during time of war at his White House Correspondents Dinners. Pay attention to the context, and don’t be like Code Pink.
If so, why the heck is this guy writing for Newsweek — or any media outlet — instead of just shoveling rock out of roadbeds in Mississippi? And what does it say about the credibility of an outlet that would hire a confessed public liar to deliver the “news?”
Rob, I submit to you that that is half the problem.
Glenn Beck , George Will, 90% of the FOX ‘news’ team … the list goes on. They have all been shown to have lied, sometimes extravagantly. The only reason they are still gainfully employed is because they have never *confessed* to their lies, even when directly asked about them. The only reason they are still gainfully employed is because that sin of omission allows wiggle room for those who want desperately to believe the lie. Funny that happens so much more on the right than on the left in this country (and website).
(And before anybody is silly enough to bring up Dan Rather, kindly remember that he admitted to a mistake, and no longer has a job. One has to wonder if he would have ‘retired’ if he’d have stuck to his guns about the veracity of the memos in question …)
Dan Rather made his 11th hour claims based on questionable documents. Mary Mapes was fired by CBS for her part in failing to validate their authenticity. She was also part of similar crap back in Seattle: http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110005711
============
The Bascomb shooting angered many people in Seattle, and officials quickly organized an inquest. Then KIRO aired an incendiary story titled “A Shot in the Dark,” in which a previously unknown witness named Wardell Fincher accused the cops involved in the raid of lying. He said he saw officers arrive at the house, burst in with no warning and shoot Bascomb, who might not have even known the intruders were cops. The story shifted to possible criminal wrongdoing by the police. Mr. Fincher was summoned to the inquest, and previous witnesses recalled. The reporter for the sensational segment was Mark Wrolstad, now a reporter with the Dallas Morning News. The producer was his wife, Mary Mapes.
Fortunately for the cops, Mr. Fincher wasn’t the only one at the scene of the raid that night. A reporter for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Mike Barber, was tagging along with officers. Mr. Barber observed the officers arriving at the house, knocking, announcing themselves and then entering. He was there when the shooting happened and when the ambulances were summoned. At that point, a man “reeking of alcohol” walked out of some nearby bushes and approached him. He wanted to know what had just happened. That was Wardell Fincher. But Mr. Fincher wasn’t thoroughly checked out, so all this came out after the story aired. The police were eventually cleared but it took years and an unsuccessful civil-rights lawsuit by the Bascomb family to undo the damage.
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You’re welcome to call it ’spin’, Craig. But, considering that you’ve obviously missed my point, it doesn’t make you more credible. If anything, it just makes you another lying liar, who people ’round these parts will support because they want to believe your lies.
And just so that you don’t prove yourself retarded, yet again, I’m not writing about your link (the only pathetic skill you seem to have). I’m writing about your claim that I am engaging in “spin’.
My favorite part is that the joke isn’t really about the media, it’s about people like olredtrk and Lt. Ripley. It’s all the funnier in the fact that they just don’t get it.
Oh – I see the point of this post – conservatives, in addition to not be able to handle nuance, also don’t understand humor. I read somewhere that most conservatives don’t get that Stephen Colbert is yanking their chain. Good grief!
You know what is amusing is that Fox news is always accused of “lying” but I can’t think of it being involved in the sort of big whoppers that other major news organizations have been guilty of.
All news organizations make mistakes, that’s just part of the nature of the beast, when you are putting together a lot of information on deadline. But Fox hasn’t had anything close to the Dan Rather fiasco, or fiascos at other media outlets.
The New York Times had the reporter who was making up stories for months and months, Jason Blair. The Times still hasn’t lived down the famous Walter Duranty, I think his name was, who covered the Soviet Union in the 30s and 40s, and it was later discovered that he was sugarcoating and making up things up in order to make Stalin’s Soviet Union look a lot better than it really was. He won a Pulitzer, and many feel the Times should return the award for the phony reporting.
CNN had the Tailwind scandal and the situation where it admitted going soft on Saddam in order to keep reporters in Iraq.
NBC claimed GM trucks had unsafe gas tanks, and in the course of its investigation, it turned out that they rigged the tanks with explosives to make them look more dangerous than they really were.
The Washington Post’s Janet Cook won a Pulitzer for her reporting on an impoverished young boy, and then later admitted she made the whole story up.
The New Republic has had several writers who were discovered to simply be making up stories out of whole cloth. (One of them was the basis for a pretty good movie…Shattered Glass I think was the name)
Now, an impartial observer might say that Fox is the only news organization that doesn’t lie. Only a hyperpartisan would say that, compared to others, Fox is a lying news source.
[...] 11, 2009 I was posting a long reply to a comment over at Electric City Weblog (”All of You Voted For Me), and when I clicked “submit”, the connection was interrupted, and so the world now [...]
During the video clip, you hear thunderous applause and laughter following Mr. Obama’s ‘joke’. Was the joke that good, or was the enmity of Fox that widespread. I would suggest that Fox has received the ill treatment because it is the only major media outlet, with exception of CNBC and Rick Santelli, that have openly challenged the left on a regular basis. We should expect to see more of this drivel, not less.
I wonder who writes the jokes for the Teleprompter, Mark T or Mihalis. Their defense of the ‘joke’ suggest personal infatuation if not involvement.
Craig, it was #9 with a little #12 thrown in for extra effect. The left would never resort to #18–too much integrity in their camp for that.
“My favorite part is that the joke isn’t really about the media, it’s about people like olredtrk and Lt. Ripley. It’s all the funnier in the fact that they just don’t get it.
LOL I don’t? I already said that I’m not outraged, even if I didn’t laugh at it.
I don’t find liberal humor funny. I don’t laugh at retard children either or people who fall on their faces. But that’s just me.
OK – I’ll explain the joke, with the understanding that once explained, it is no longer funny.
“OK – you guys are all widely criticized for being liberals. We know that’s not true, but hell, let’s go along with it for a second. I’ll say “You all voted for me”, and you all laugh and applaud. And then I’ll take a shot at Fox, because we all know they think we are all liberals too.”
Now, the reason that is funny is because 1) everyone in journalism in the room is an insider, and 2)you guys are going to think it’s serious.
See what I mean about nuance? It’s all beyond you. Listen to you guys …
During the video clip, you hear thunderous applause and laughter following Mr. Obama’s ‘joke’. Was the joke that good, or was the enmity of Fox that widespread. I would suggest that Fox has received the ill treatment because it is the only major media outlet, with exception of CNBC and Rick Santelli, that have openly challenged the left on a regular basis. We should expect to see more of this drivel, not less.
His arrogance in thanking the press for their voting record (and knowing he was correct) was very amusing. No code pink here!
Quite a bit of truth to that statement. It also speaks volumes to the objectivity of the media.
Who need humor about you guys when you are a parody of yourself?
Come on Mark, President Peanut, Puppet-in-Chief, is much funnier than TOTUS, and we even get to see the guy who creates the dialogue, makes the jokes, and manipulates the motions.
Wulfgar: “Glenn Beck , George Will, 90% of the FOX ‘news’ team … the list goes on. They have all been shown to have lied, sometimes extravagantly. ”
Documentation, please? And remember, the word is “lied” — deliberate falsehood, like that of Klein. Not a mistake. . . not something they should have checked . . not believing something he wanted to be true. But more like saying “No, I didn’t write that book,” when he knows full well at the time he is saying it that he DID write that book.
(and the joke is about how he’s going to say they voted for him, poking the paranoid right a little for thinking it, but the punny part is that they probably did vote for him)
Like I said, I get it. I just don’t think it’s funny. I’m not outraged, nor do I really care that he said it. I JUST DON’T FIND LIBERAL HUMOR FUNNY.
olredtrk: “9,12,18, and 19. At least you’re predictable.”
Well, if you can’t support a real argument, you can always destroy everybody else’s chances of having one.
Wait, I know, it’s 2, 9, a little 11, a lot of 12, a lot of 13, and just a hint of 18. I’m trying to think of something cryptic to say so I can add 14, but all my mind is coming up with falls under 12 again. Ooo, I think I just added 15!
Mihalis, I was critized for not being able to understand a joke. Mark T proclaimed that I was a parody. This time the joke was on you. My last post and the tail end of the one previous to that were perfect examples of parody. The tactics that you and Mark continually employ were my subject. You change the topic, belittle the person that disagrees with you, and offer scant supporting evidence for your arguements. I’m sure you’ll find just about as much humor in my attempt as what I found in Mr. Obama’s. At least I wrote my own.
As I said before, you are such a sensitive little Marxist. Oops, more parody.
olredtrk: “I’m sure you’ll find just about as much humor in my attempt as what I found in Mr. Obama’s.”
It’s unfortunate that I can’t really respond to this post without seeming to fulfil this particular little prediction, but I guess I’ll just live with that.
olredtrk: “Mihalis, I was critized for not being able to understand a joke.”
And your last post does nothing to counter that assertion.
olredtrk: “My last post and the tail end of the one previous to that were perfect examples of parody.”
Actually no, they weren’t. A “parody” is a humorous imitation. You can argue the “humorous” part if you’d like, but but you didn’t appear to be imitating anybody, other than possibly Craig. So, I guess if you’re goal was to parody Craig, then maybe you accomplished what you set out to do. Probably not.
olredtrk: “You change the topic, belittle the person that disagrees with you, and offer scant supporting evidence for your arguements.”
Do I now? I’ll admit to belittling people. It’s hard not to given what I have to work with (See? Did it again! I just can’t help myself!). As for changing the subject and failing to support my arguments with evidence, I’d challenge you to prove it without living up to 7 and 8 on your own list.
olredtrk: “At least I wrote my own.”
Um, I don’t know how to break it to you, but saying something like “Hey, you’re doing 3, 4, 6, 9, 18, and 69 on this other guys funny list” doesn’t really count as writing your own joke. On top of that, Craig beat you to it. Pretty much all you did was piggy back on him.
olredtrk: “As I said before, you are such a sensitive little Marxist. Oops, more parody.”
Again, that’s not parody. Mockery maybe, but not parody. You might want to look that word up before you use it again. As for me being a sensitive little Marxist, that’s actually approaching funny in it’s silliness. Still not quite there. Maybe if you wore a hat?
Mihalis: “I’ll admit to belittling people. It’s hard not to given what I have to work with…”
Life has a way of crushing arrogance and humbling most of us….if we are lucky enough to recognize the lesson. Usually comes with age and deep wounds. Simply because we can (belittle people) perhaps we shouldn’t if we care about the consequences.
Craig Moore: “Life has a way of crushing arrogance and humbling most of us….if we are lucky enough to recognize the lesson.”
You must be a very unlucky person Craig.
Craig Moore: “Simply because we can (belittle people) perhaps we shouldn’t if we care about the consequences.”
You’re missing a very important fact Craig. I don’t belittle people who have earned respect. Gregg, JAC, and even Professor Natelson when he’s sticking to facts and not his “Nutty Professor” politics. I don’t belittle people who honestly ask questions. The people I belittle are people like you Craig. People who have earned no respect, but for some reason think it’s their due. People who drip with arrogance for no distinguishable reason. People who feel that they’re in a position to lecture, like you feel you’re in a position to lecture me on arrogance on consequences, missing the obvious irony in that. Feel free to go back to playing your stupid little numbers game, and for the love of Pete, don’t forget to end your posts with “Carry on”. If you don’t, how can the rest of us ever realise how superior you are?
[...] reporters and pundits make no secret of their enthusiasm for our new president. Obama even joked about it the other day at the journalists’ traditional roast, averring, “All of you voted for [...]
Quite a bit of truth to that statement. It also speaks volumes to the objectivity of the media. A quick study of these web sites, gives further evidence.
http://mediamatters.org/
http://newsbusters.org/
Since I don’t watch Mr. Obama’s press conferences, can some one fill me in–has Fox been allowed to question the Teleprompter yet?
olredtrk: I noticed on the Media Matters page that Joe Klein is accusing Rush Limbaugh of delivering “misinformation” and “lies.” Isn’t Klein the guy that wrote Primary Colors under a pseudonym and then, when it was found out, repeatedly and publicly lied about being the author? If so, why the heck is this guy writing for Newsweek — or any media outlet — instead of just shoveling rock out of roadbeds in Mississippi? And what does it say about the credibility of an outlet that would hire a confessed public liar to deliver the “news?”
And what does it say about a website — Media Matters — that would feature his writing?
I find myself in the odd position of defending Obama here. This statement was made at the White House Correspondents Dinner, which has a long tradition of being a gathering where the speakers, including the President himself, make amusing, exaggerated speeches. It’s a rare occasion where the press/Presidential relationship is collegial and informal, and even President Bush got in on the fun by making jokes about current events. To go after Obama’s statement at this dinner would be like when the Code Pink/ANSWER/Move-onners lambasted Bush for joking during time of war at his White House Correspondents Dinners. Pay attention to the context, and don’t be like Code Pink.
His arrogance in thanking the press for their voting record (and knowing he was correct) was very amusing. No code pink here!
Hey, I just posted the video. You can read into it whatever you want!
Rob, I submit to you that that is half the problem.
Glenn Beck , George Will, 90% of the FOX ‘news’ team … the list goes on. They have all been shown to have lied, sometimes extravagantly. The only reason they are still gainfully employed is because they have never *confessed* to their lies, even when directly asked about them. The only reason they are still gainfully employed is because that sin of omission allows wiggle room for those who want desperately to believe the lie. Funny that happens so much more on the right than on the left in this country (and website).
(And before anybody is silly enough to bring up Dan Rather, kindly remember that he admitted to a mistake, and no longer has a job. One has to wonder if he would have ‘retired’ if he’d have stuck to his guns about the veracity of the memos in question …)
Dan Rather made his 11th hour claims based on questionable documents. Mary Mapes was fired by CBS for her part in failing to validate their authenticity. She was also part of similar crap back in Seattle: http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110005711
============
The Bascomb shooting angered many people in Seattle, and officials quickly organized an inquest. Then KIRO aired an incendiary story titled “A Shot in the Dark,” in which a previously unknown witness named Wardell Fincher accused the cops involved in the raid of lying. He said he saw officers arrive at the house, burst in with no warning and shoot Bascomb, who might not have even known the intruders were cops. The story shifted to possible criminal wrongdoing by the police. Mr. Fincher was summoned to the inquest, and previous witnesses recalled. The reporter for the sensational segment was Mark Wrolstad, now a reporter with the Dallas Morning News. The producer was his wife, Mary Mapes.
Fortunately for the cops, Mr. Fincher wasn’t the only one at the scene of the raid that night. A reporter for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Mike Barber, was tagging along with officers. Mr. Barber observed the officers arriving at the house, knocking, announcing themselves and then entering. He was there when the shooting happened and when the ambulances were summoned. At that point, a man “reeking of alcohol” walked out of some nearby bushes and approached him. He wanted to know what had just happened. That was Wardell Fincher. But Mr. Fincher wasn’t thoroughly checked out, so all this came out after the story aired. The police were eventually cleared but it took years and an unsuccessful civil-rights lawsuit by the Bascomb family to undo the damage.
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Mapes “mistakes” gave Rather no choice but to admit a less than stellar journalistic effort. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/20/politics/main644546.shtml
Thank you, Craig, for supporting my very point.
IF you spin any faster, you’re going to get a blister on your butt.
You’re welcome to call it ’spin’, Craig. But, considering that you’ve obviously missed my point, it doesn’t make you more credible. If anything, it just makes you another lying liar, who people ’round these parts will support because they want to believe your lies.
And just so that you don’t prove yourself retarded, yet again, I’m not writing about your link (the only pathetic skill you seem to have). I’m writing about your claim that I am engaging in “spin’.
Craig…That was PRICELESS!!
CBE,
My favorite part is that the joke isn’t really about the media, it’s about people like olredtrk and Lt. Ripley. It’s all the funnier in the fact that they just don’t get it.
Mihalis, I think that was #9. http://battalions2.wordpress.com/2006/06/21/good-old-liberal-debate-tactics/
Oh – I see the point of this post – conservatives, in addition to not be able to handle nuance, also don’t understand humor. I read somewhere that most conservatives don’t get that Stephen Colbert is yanking their chain. Good grief!
Mark, you mean like this:
LIBERAL — Limp, Inanimate Bastard, Enigma of Rudeness and Alcoholic Lump
HUMOR — Horrific, Unstable Meathead, Oblivious to Ruth.
Craig Moore: “Mihalis, I think that was #9.”
And that was #18. Wait, I didn’t know you were a liberal!
RIGHT- Real, Iconic Guideposts, Heralders of Truth
in a self-deprecating sort of way like Gregg and prof. Natelson.
Stop. Stop. You. Are. Killing. Me.
Mark, seems like you are only wounded a little. Perhaps this will help:
LEFT- Laughable Erodible Fitful Thwack
Geez, I take one afternoon off…and look at you. You guys are incorrigible.
GREGG- Gallows Recitalist Ecumenical Galloping Granduncle
You know what is amusing is that Fox news is always accused of “lying” but I can’t think of it being involved in the sort of big whoppers that other major news organizations have been guilty of.
All news organizations make mistakes, that’s just part of the nature of the beast, when you are putting together a lot of information on deadline. But Fox hasn’t had anything close to the Dan Rather fiasco, or fiascos at other media outlets.
The New York Times had the reporter who was making up stories for months and months, Jason Blair. The Times still hasn’t lived down the famous Walter Duranty, I think his name was, who covered the Soviet Union in the 30s and 40s, and it was later discovered that he was sugarcoating and making up things up in order to make Stalin’s Soviet Union look a lot better than it really was. He won a Pulitzer, and many feel the Times should return the award for the phony reporting.
CNN had the Tailwind scandal and the situation where it admitted going soft on Saddam in order to keep reporters in Iraq.
NBC claimed GM trucks had unsafe gas tanks, and in the course of its investigation, it turned out that they rigged the tanks with explosives to make them look more dangerous than they really were.
The Washington Post’s Janet Cook won a Pulitzer for her reporting on an impoverished young boy, and then later admitted she made the whole story up.
The New Republic has had several writers who were discovered to simply be making up stories out of whole cloth. (One of them was the basis for a pretty good movie…Shattered Glass I think was the name)
Now, an impartial observer might say that Fox is the only news organization that doesn’t lie. Only a hyperpartisan would say that, compared to others, Fox is a lying news source.
Wulfgar: 90% of the FOX ‘news’ team …
Are you sure? The website for the Department of Completely Made Up Facts only pegs Fox at 46.7%.
[...] 11, 2009 I was posting a long reply to a comment over at Electric City Weblog (”All of You Voted For Me), and when I clicked “submit”, the connection was interrupted, and so the world now [...]
A few more voices on journalism and partisanship:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20086.html
http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=745
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113485
http://www.politicususa.com/en/Obama-Fox-News
During the video clip, you hear thunderous applause and laughter following Mr. Obama’s ‘joke’. Was the joke that good, or was the enmity of Fox that widespread. I would suggest that Fox has received the ill treatment because it is the only major media outlet, with exception of CNBC and Rick Santelli, that have openly challenged the left on a regular basis. We should expect to see more of this drivel, not less.
I wonder who writes the jokes for the Teleprompter, Mark T or Mihalis. Their defense of the ‘joke’ suggest personal infatuation if not involvement.
Craig, it was #9 with a little #12 thrown in for extra effect. The left would never resort to #18–too much integrity in their camp for that.
“My favorite part is that the joke isn’t really about the media, it’s about people like olredtrk and Lt. Ripley. It’s all the funnier in the fact that they just don’t get it.
LOL I don’t? I already said that I’m not outraged, even if I didn’t laugh at it.
I don’t find liberal humor funny. I don’t laugh at retard children either or people who fall on their faces. But that’s just me.
Peanut makes me laugh. http://www.crazymac.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/peanut.gif
OK – I’ll explain the joke, with the understanding that once explained, it is no longer funny.
“OK – you guys are all widely criticized for being liberals. We know that’s not true, but hell, let’s go along with it for a second. I’ll say “You all voted for me”, and you all laugh and applaud. And then I’ll take a shot at Fox, because we all know they think we are all liberals too.”
Now, the reason that is funny is because 1) everyone in journalism in the room is an insider, and 2)you guys are going to think it’s serious.
See what I mean about nuance? It’s all beyond you. Listen to you guys …
During the video clip, you hear thunderous applause and laughter following Mr. Obama’s ‘joke’. Was the joke that good, or was the enmity of Fox that widespread. I would suggest that Fox has received the ill treatment because it is the only major media outlet, with exception of CNBC and Rick Santelli, that have openly challenged the left on a regular basis. We should expect to see more of this drivel, not less.
His arrogance in thanking the press for their voting record (and knowing he was correct) was very amusing. No code pink here!
Quite a bit of truth to that statement. It also speaks volumes to the objectivity of the media.
Who need humor about you guys when you are a parody of yourself?
Come on Mark, President Peanut, Puppet-in-Chief, is much funnier than TOTUS, and we even get to see the guy who creates the dialogue, makes the jokes, and manipulates the motions.
Wulfgar: “Glenn Beck , George Will, 90% of the FOX ‘news’ team … the list goes on. They have all been shown to have lied, sometimes extravagantly. ”
Documentation, please? And remember, the word is “lied” — deliberate falsehood, like that of Klein. Not a mistake. . . not something they should have checked . . not believing something he wanted to be true. But more like saying “No, I didn’t write that book,” when he knows full well at the time he is saying it that he DID write that book.
Mark, I GOT THE JOKE.
I just don’t think it’s haha funny.
(and the joke is about how he’s going to say they voted for him, poking the paranoid right a little for thinking it, but the punny part is that they probably did vote for him)
Like I said, I get it. I just don’t think it’s funny. I’m not outraged, nor do I really care that he said it. I JUST DON’T FIND LIBERAL HUMOR FUNNY.
No big deal.
I think South Park’s funny. And The Three Stooges. And MST3K, can’t forget about the Satellite of Love!
And as far as “not getting it” goes…if you can see a joke coming from a mile away, it’s not gonna be funny.
“Who need humor about you guys when you are a parody of yourself?”
9,12,18, and 19. At least you’re predictable.
olredtrk: “9,12,18, and 19. At least you’re predictable.”
Well, if you can’t support a real argument, you can always destroy everybody else’s chances of having one.
Wait, I know, it’s 2, 9, a little 11, a lot of 12, a lot of 13, and just a hint of 18. I’m trying to think of something cryptic to say so I can add 14, but all my mind is coming up with falls under 12 again. Ooo, I think I just added 15!
Mihalis, I was critized for not being able to understand a joke. Mark T proclaimed that I was a parody. This time the joke was on you. My last post and the tail end of the one previous to that were perfect examples of parody. The tactics that you and Mark continually employ were my subject. You change the topic, belittle the person that disagrees with you, and offer scant supporting evidence for your arguements. I’m sure you’ll find just about as much humor in my attempt as what I found in Mr. Obama’s. At least I wrote my own.
As I said before, you are such a sensitive little Marxist. Oops, more parody.
olredtrk: “I’m sure you’ll find just about as much humor in my attempt as what I found in Mr. Obama’s.”
It’s unfortunate that I can’t really respond to this post without seeming to fulfil this particular little prediction, but I guess I’ll just live with that.
olredtrk: “Mihalis, I was critized for not being able to understand a joke.”
And your last post does nothing to counter that assertion.
olredtrk: “My last post and the tail end of the one previous to that were perfect examples of parody.”
Actually no, they weren’t. A “parody” is a humorous imitation. You can argue the “humorous” part if you’d like, but but you didn’t appear to be imitating anybody, other than possibly Craig. So, I guess if you’re goal was to parody Craig, then maybe you accomplished what you set out to do. Probably not.
olredtrk: “You change the topic, belittle the person that disagrees with you, and offer scant supporting evidence for your arguements.”
Do I now? I’ll admit to belittling people. It’s hard not to given what I have to work with (See? Did it again! I just can’t help myself!). As for changing the subject and failing to support my arguments with evidence, I’d challenge you to prove it without living up to 7 and 8 on your own list.
olredtrk: “At least I wrote my own.”
Um, I don’t know how to break it to you, but saying something like “Hey, you’re doing 3, 4, 6, 9, 18, and 69 on this other guys funny list” doesn’t really count as writing your own joke. On top of that, Craig beat you to it. Pretty much all you did was piggy back on him.
olredtrk: “As I said before, you are such a sensitive little Marxist. Oops, more parody.”
Again, that’s not parody. Mockery maybe, but not parody. You might want to look that word up before you use it again. As for me being a sensitive little Marxist, that’s actually approaching funny in it’s silliness. Still not quite there. Maybe if you wore a hat?
Someone told a joke? Well here is a seed…Grow a sense of humor.
Mihalis: “I’ll admit to belittling people. It’s hard not to given what I have to work with…”
Life has a way of crushing arrogance and humbling most of us….if we are lucky enough to recognize the lesson. Usually comes with age and deep wounds. Simply because we can (belittle people) perhaps we shouldn’t if we care about the consequences.
Craig Moore: “Life has a way of crushing arrogance and humbling most of us….if we are lucky enough to recognize the lesson.”
You must be a very unlucky person Craig.
Craig Moore: “Simply because we can (belittle people) perhaps we shouldn’t if we care about the consequences.”
You’re missing a very important fact Craig. I don’t belittle people who have earned respect. Gregg, JAC, and even Professor Natelson when he’s sticking to facts and not his “Nutty Professor” politics. I don’t belittle people who honestly ask questions. The people I belittle are people like you Craig. People who have earned no respect, but for some reason think it’s their due. People who drip with arrogance for no distinguishable reason. People who feel that they’re in a position to lecture, like you feel you’re in a position to lecture me on arrogance on consequences, missing the obvious irony in that. Feel free to go back to playing your stupid little numbers game, and for the love of Pete, don’t forget to end your posts with “Carry on”. If you don’t, how can the rest of us ever realise how superior you are?
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