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		<title>By: Voting Disorders: Bingeing on Purging &#171; Piece Of Mind</title>
		<link>http://electriccityweblog.com/?p=1363&#038;cpage=1#comment-6639</link>
		<dc:creator>Voting Disorders: Bingeing on Purging &#171; Piece Of Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And louder. Pretty soon all of the &#039;pubbies were talking about it, and the blogs got into it (here, here, here) - here we go again - RWCJ (right wing circle [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And louder. Pretty soon all of the &#8216;pubbies were talking about it, and the blogs got into it (here, here, here) &#8211; here we go again &#8211; RWCJ (right wing circle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://electriccityweblog.com/?p=1363&#038;cpage=1#comment-6615</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans stopped because they&#039;re afraid.  See McCain&#039;s example at the top.  Oh, noes, they might call us racists!!11!

(By the way, I don&#039;t know anything about Montana--I thought Electric City was Scranton, PA.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans stopped because they&#8217;re afraid.  See McCain&#8217;s example at the top.  Oh, noes, they might call us racists!!11!</p>
<p>(By the way, I don&#8217;t know anything about Montana&#8211;I thought Electric City was Scranton, PA.)</p>
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		<title>By: wolfpack</title>
		<link>http://electriccityweblog.com/?p=1363&#038;cpage=1#comment-6599</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfpack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think Mark and Dave were this upset when the counties of FL were selectively recounted in 2000? Even a guy with half a brain doubts it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Mark and Dave were this upset when the counties of FL were selectively recounted in 2000? Even a guy with half a brain doubts it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Smith</title>
		<link>http://electriccityweblog.com/?p=1363&#038;cpage=1#comment-6597</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say &quot;anyone with half a brain can see&quot; something, you are pretty directly implying that anyone who doesn&#039;t see things the same way lacks &quot;half a brain.&quot; It&#039;s not that hard to figure out your reasoning.

I don&#039;t think I attacked you personally. I think that if you are going to say things like someone either a) agrees with you or b) lacks half a brain, it is fair to question &lt;em&gt;your &lt;/em&gt;intelligence. Just to see where the accusation is coming from, so to speak. You know, to gauge &lt;em&gt;your &lt;/em&gt;credibility in calling &lt;em&gt;us &lt;/em&gt;stupid.  If you took that as a personal attack, I sincerely apologize.

(By the way, you need to take even &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt; steps to hide your domain. I can still &#039;see&#039; where you&#039;re calling from.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say &#8220;anyone with half a brain can see&#8221; something, you are pretty directly implying that anyone who doesn&#8217;t see things the same way lacks &#8220;half a brain.&#8221; It&#8217;s not that hard to figure out your reasoning.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I attacked you personally. I think that if you are going to say things like someone either a) agrees with you or b) lacks half a brain, it is fair to question <em>your </em>intelligence. Just to see where the accusation is coming from, so to speak. You know, to gauge <em>your </em>credibility in calling <em>us </em>stupid.  If you took that as a personal attack, I sincerely apologize.</p>
<p>(By the way, you need to take even <i>better</i> steps to hide your domain. I can still &#8217;see&#8217; where you&#8217;re calling from.)</p>
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		<title>By: Big Sky Husker</title>
		<link>http://electriccityweblog.com/?p=1363&#038;cpage=1#comment-6596</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Sky Husker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - what I believe is the Democratic machine in those areas will stoop to any level to get out the vote... for Democrats.  The law allows a challenge.  If you don&#039;t like the law, go through the process and get it changed.  Instead of whining about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; what I believe is the Democratic machine in those areas will stoop to any level to get out the vote&#8230; for Democrats.  The law allows a challenge.  If you don&#8217;t like the law, go through the process and get it changed.  Instead of whining about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://electriccityweblog.com/?p=1363&#038;cpage=1#comment-6595</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t mean if they disagree with me they are stupid.  I meant it doesn&#039;t take someone with great intelligence to see that the Republicans are trying to keep people from voting, especially when they just happen to be Democratic counties.  Are you honestly trying to say that you believe that that was just a coincidence that they picked those counties?  And I don&#039;t remember stating any assumption about your motives, only the motives of the Republican party.  And I love how you resort to personal attacks just when I post something you don&#039;t agree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t mean if they disagree with me they are stupid.  I meant it doesn&#8217;t take someone with great intelligence to see that the Republicans are trying to keep people from voting, especially when they just happen to be Democratic counties.  Are you honestly trying to say that you believe that that was just a coincidence that they picked those counties?  And I don&#8217;t remember stating any assumption about your motives, only the motives of the Republican party.  And I love how you resort to personal attacks just when I post something you don&#8217;t agree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Smith</title>
		<link>http://electriccityweblog.com/?p=1363&#038;cpage=1#comment-6594</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone with half a brain.

Dave, your contributions to the level of discourse never cease to amaze. Anyone who doesn&#039;t agree with you is stupid, huh? I think you need to come out of your anonymous closet and impress us all with your intellect and level of achievement in this lifetime. Please.

At least Mark offers an analysis beyond talking points. I can respect him. I disagree with him almost all the time, usually vehemently, but he at least brings independent thought to bear on things.

By the way, I love both of your assumptions about my motives. Wrong, but I still love to hear them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone with half a brain.</p>
<p>Dave, your contributions to the level of discourse never cease to amaze. Anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree with you is stupid, huh? I think you need to come out of your anonymous closet and impress us all with your intellect and level of achievement in this lifetime. Please.</p>
<p>At least Mark offers an analysis beyond talking points. I can respect him. I disagree with him almost all the time, usually vehemently, but he at least brings independent thought to bear on things.</p>
<p>By the way, I love both of your assumptions about my motives. Wrong, but I still love to hear them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree mark, while it might have been a legal move anyone with half a brain can see that it was  a plain and simple stunt to keep voters from voting.  This blanket challenge was done by simply comparing voters mailing address and their voter registration address.  And the fact that it was only a few select counties cements even further the idea of this being a political stunt to keep democrats from the ballot box.  And now the fact that they recalled their challenge after some criticism is the final nail in the coffin of the political stunt belief.  Seems to me that the gop is getting pretty desperate in their attempts to get elected</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree mark, while it might have been a legal move anyone with half a brain can see that it was  a plain and simple stunt to keep voters from voting.  This blanket challenge was done by simply comparing voters mailing address and their voter registration address.  And the fact that it was only a few select counties cements even further the idea of this being a political stunt to keep democrats from the ballot box.  And now the fact that they recalled their challenge after some criticism is the final nail in the coffin of the political stunt belief.  Seems to me that the gop is getting pretty desperate in their attempts to get elected</p>
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		<title>By: npsrangerman</title>
		<link>http://electriccityweblog.com/?p=1363&#038;cpage=1#comment-6592</link>
		<dc:creator>npsrangerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably one of the more famous futurist and progressives was the author Robert Heinlein who wrote, among many other titles, &quot;Starship Troopers.&quot;  I must admit that the society he envisioned had an interesting approach to suffrage.  

If you wanted full citizenship and the vote, you had to serve in the military.

Frankly, it makes sense.  We are all dependent upon those brave souls who risk all for our freedom.

Frankly, I would forfeit my right to vote, since I have never served, if we were to set such a system up.  Who better to empower our gov&#039;t for right and responsible operation than those upon whose backs the mantle of freedom is born?

One thing is for certain, this system we have today has got to be made foolproof.  I propose no absentee balloting without a medical excuse.  Furthermore, thumbprints, paper trails, and a quick photograph should be embossed upon each vote cast.  The results of all polling should be delayed for 30 days and all votes should be vetted.

Anyone found to be committing voter fraud loses their citizenship.  PERIOD!  This is a crime against our Constitution [voter fraud].  It should be treated as a voluntary renunciation of US Citizenry.  Loss of other privileges and entitlements should follow.

This has to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably one of the more famous futurist and progressives was the author Robert Heinlein who wrote, among many other titles, &#8220;Starship Troopers.&#8221;  I must admit that the society he envisioned had an interesting approach to suffrage.  </p>
<p>If you wanted full citizenship and the vote, you had to serve in the military.</p>
<p>Frankly, it makes sense.  We are all dependent upon those brave souls who risk all for our freedom.</p>
<p>Frankly, I would forfeit my right to vote, since I have never served, if we were to set such a system up.  Who better to empower our gov&#8217;t for right and responsible operation than those upon whose backs the mantle of freedom is born?</p>
<p>One thing is for certain, this system we have today has got to be made foolproof.  I propose no absentee balloting without a medical excuse.  Furthermore, thumbprints, paper trails, and a quick photograph should be embossed upon each vote cast.  The results of all polling should be delayed for 30 days and all votes should be vetted.</p>
<p>Anyone found to be committing voter fraud loses their citizenship.  PERIOD!  This is a crime against our Constitution [voter fraud].  It should be treated as a voluntary renunciation of US Citizenry.  Loss of other privileges and entitlements should follow.</p>
<p>This has to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Moore</title>
		<link>http://electriccityweblog.com/?p=1363&#038;cpage=1#comment-6591</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark T&#039;s arguments sound eerily like what Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Chuck Schumer et al. made against instilling proper process controls  and review procedures with Frannie and Freddie.  Hell of a way to run a railroad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark T&#8217;s arguments sound eerily like what Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Chuck Schumer et al. made against instilling proper process controls  and review procedures with Frannie and Freddie.  Hell of a way to run a railroad.</p>
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